tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-43779600116812662992024-03-05T20:19:34.747-08:00SkeptiVetBartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4377960011681266299.post-21792343060130054982013-02-03T09:07:00.003-08:002013-02-03T09:07:19.407-08:00The usefulness and danger of herbal medicine.This is just a short post to draw attention to an <a href="http://edzardernst.com/2013/02/two-types-of-herbal-medicine-neglect-the-difference-at-your-peril/" target="_blank">excellent post by Edzard Ernst</a> discussing the pitfalls of traditionally practiced herbal medicine. The only thing I would like to add is that the evidence for effectiveness and knowledge of potential toxicity is even less well known in animals than in humans. <a href="http://skeptivet.blogspot.com/search/label/herbal%20medicine" target="_blank">Especially in cats</a>, which over the course of their evolution as obligate carnivores have lost some of the enzymes most other animals use to metabolize plant compounds.<br />
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As the research Dr. Ernst discusses demonstrates, traditional methods of individualized herbal treatment simply do not work, and should be avoided. The risks of toxicity, interaction and contamination are much higher than the basically random chance of benefit. This risk/benefit ratio is likely even more negative when treating animals, for which there is little to no strong evidence of efficacy, and potentially a higher risk, especially in cats of harm.Bartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4377960011681266299.post-25893423479395442472012-02-29T16:25:00.000-08:002013-03-24T18:34:45.155-07:00Rabies case in FloridaA <a href="http://www.gainesville.com/article/20120224/ARTICLES/120229695?p=1&tc=pg" target="_blank">sad story</a> from Florida illustrating the importance of keeping <a href="http://skeptivet.blogspot.com/search/label/rabies" target="_blank">Rabies</a> vaccinations up to date. The dog involved in this case had not been vaccinated in 7 years, and contracted Rabies after being exposed to a raccoon. Two other dogs in the house were apparently not currently vaccinated and had to be euthanized, and the entire family is undergoing post-exposure treatment for Rabies. Some folks insist that a single Rabies vaccine is effective for life-this case illustrates (along with other <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17039445" target="_blank">evidence</a> of declining immunity after 3-4 years) that that idea is potentially disastrously wrong. While it is worth studying the duration of immunity conferred from rabies vaccines, and the 3 year requirement may be somewhat arbitrary, immunity does decline over time, and modern rabies vaccines are a very safe, inexpensive form of protection against a deadly disease. It is not <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18006120" target="_blank">safe to assume</a> that all vaccines are equally effective, and individual and breed variations in response to vaccination mean that while some dogs may have immunity for many years, others need more frequent boosters. This individual variation is the reason for the common 3 year booster requirement for dogs-while some dogs have immunity that lasts longer than this, some will start to lose protective immunity around this time.Bartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4377960011681266299.post-12559596552033266552011-12-01T15:23:00.001-08:002011-12-01T15:53:34.979-08:00How to investigate wildlife (or cryptozoology) sightings.<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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<br />Bartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4377960011681266299.post-83622276605804509692011-11-23T18:26:00.001-08:002011-11-23T18:32:10.290-08:00New Jaguar sighting in southern Arizona.The Arizona Game and Fish Department and <a href="http://azstarnet.com/news/local/jaguar-seen-in-area-of-cochise/article_c41a3138-c50e-5bdc-a5d0-c26d5ff503bb.html#ixzz1eTM19WdI" target="_blank">The Arizona Daily</a> Star are reporting a new sighting of a Jaguar in Arizona. This is the first sighting since the tragic case of <a href="http://skeptivet.blogspot.com/2010/05/sad-case-of-macho-b.html" target="_blank">Macho B</a> back in February of 2009. It is good to see that Jaguars are still making their way into Arizona despite all the border issues which are potentially getting in their way.Bartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4377960011681266299.post-90602469235402223572011-11-13T12:12:00.001-08:002011-11-13T14:30:00.588-08:00More genetic information on dog breeds, their relationships and possible effects. A recent genetic study in <a href="http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pgen.1002316">PLoS Genetics</a> has some interesting implications relating to claims made by some dog breeders and many practitioners of alternative veterinary medicine. As our ability to collect and analyze large amounts of genetic data improves, we can learn a lot about how genetics affect the susceptibility of dogs and humans to various diseases. The <a href="http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v438/n7069/full/nature04338.html">genetic history</a> of the domestic dog is at least 15,000years, and possibly as much as 100,000 years. Over most of this time, dogs were used for a variety of work including hunting, herding, guarding, and as pets, but breeding practices were haphazard and mixing between types of dogs and even back to wolves as common.<br />
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Basically all modern breeds have been developed in the last 200 years, with many deliberate (small founding populations) and inadvertent (low numbers of dogs during social and political upheavals such as the two world wars) genetic bottlenecks. The history of the Irish Wolfhound is a good example-claims that the breed as it exists today is the same as hounds used in ancient times are not supported by any solid evidence. While it is certain that large sight hounds existed thousands of years ago in the British Isles, the modern breed is the creation of Victorian fanciers who "recreated" the breed in the mid to late 1800's based on their ideas about how the breed should look and on current Victorian ideas of "improving" animals through selective and "pure" breeding.<br />
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While these genetic studies are still preliminary, they are starting to identify gene sequences which have been strongly selected for in the process of creating these breeds. These sequences often contain mutations with major effects on both the phenotype of the dogs and on their health. The diseases which some breeds are very susceptible to are often similar to diseases which also occur in humans, and knowledge of dog genetics is applicable to human health as well. As the specific portions of the genome which affect disease susceptibility are identified, we will learn more about how to avoid many of these health problems in the future. Unfortunately for many of the alternative medicine crowd, claims that diseases like cancer are product of vague "toxins" and modern industrial society are <a href="http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2010/10/14/claims-that-cancer-is-only-a-%E2%80%98modern-man-made-disease%E2%80%99-are-false-and-misleading/">unsubstantiated by the evidence</a>. While it is true that pets can develop cancer due to exposure to specific, known toxins such as <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070831123420.htm">secondhand smoke</a>, these exposures are fairly well known and documented in both animals and humans, and are often related to the owner's lifestyle choices more than any generic effect of modernity. While avoiding known toxins such as tobacco smoke is always a good idea, trying to improve our chances with supplements or "superfoods" generally <a href="http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2011/10/less-is-more-a-reminder-of-why-irrational-dietary-supplement-use-is-a-bad-idea/">does not work</a> the way we would wish it did.<br />
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The more we learn about the interaction of our genes with the environment, the more we know that disease is often a result of genetic influences which we can control to some extent in domestic animals.<br />
Claims that cancer and autoimmune diseases are caused by specific diets, vaccines, or undefined toxins remain unsubstantiated, and support for them is getting weaker as we learn more about the genetics of dogs and other species.<br />
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<br />Bartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4377960011681266299.post-46068338955488190572011-08-02T20:33:00.000-07:002011-08-05T20:23:24.597-07:00Arizona Black Rattlesnake<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh_lux7XuBalUlxYtUs9BEawF3gzHkZa4Fm-I0w4GYUZcm_upPSdPhbuRIQneFXpnJb0oo3rXtw2LE_07Jeifk6HEQ-5FhNKdtq1bTt5t-g2MI2NozLnGeXPdAgCCqYWub-6hpiYarqcAnC/s1600/020.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="426" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh_lux7XuBalUlxYtUs9BEawF3gzHkZa4Fm-I0w4GYUZcm_upPSdPhbuRIQneFXpnJb0oo3rXtw2LE_07Jeifk6HEQ-5FhNKdtq1bTt5t-g2MI2NozLnGeXPdAgCCqYWub-6hpiYarqcAnC/s640/020.JPG" width="640" /> </a>This little (approximately 18inches long) rattlesnake was hiding in the raspberry bushes along the top of the Mogollon Rim last weekend. It rattled when we got close to warn us away. This is a subspecies of the Western Rattlesnake (<i>Crotalus viridus subspecies cerberus</i>) They tend to occur at relatively high elevations (this one was at about 7500feet above sea level). Some people think that the black color is an adaptation to high altitude that allows the snake to absorb more heat from the sun, although the leaf/needle litter in their habitat also tends to be quite dark. The dark color may serve as good camouflage as well as helping the snake warm up after cool mountain nights. Most rattlesnakes will assume a defensive position such as this, and usually will not strike unless a person or animal steps on them or persists in approaching within striking distance or tries to handle or contact the snake. This snake rattled a little to warn us and retreated into the raspberry patch. Venomous snakes in the wild should be left alone to fill their place in the ecosystem and to avoid injury. See my <a href="http://skeptivet.blogspot.com/2010/04/snakebite-fact-and-fiction.html">previous post</a> for information on first aid and treatment of rattlesnake bites.</div><br />
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Here is Michelle Dally's description of the flow of swag that starts the first day of freshman year;<br />
<blockquote>Every first-year veterinary student at Colorado State<br />
University is assigned a small desk in a dingy warren<br />
in the Anatomy building affectionately known as<br />
“the cubes.” These desks are unremarkable in all ways<br />
but one: when students first arrive, they find their desks<br />
piled high with a variety of freebiespens, notepads,<br />
backpacks, notebooks, highlighters, academic calendars,<br />
pet treats, pet food bowls, reference books, and<br />
more—all emblazoned with pet food, pharmaceutical,<br />
and other corporate brand names from across the veterinary<br />
industry. And that is only the beginning.<br />
As the year unfolds, students discover that they are<br />
entitled to free and sharply discounted dog, cat, and<br />
horse food; free heartworm preventative; a free laboratory<br />
coat; and a free clipboard for use in their gross<br />
anatomy laboratory.</blockquote> In addition to all of the gifts, students are also invited to "work" as student representatives for many of these companies, often for fairly significant amounts of money;<br />
<blockquote>Soon, first-year veterinary students<br />
are receiving e-mails through the official veterinary college<br />
e-mail distribution list encouraging them to apply<br />
to be corporate student representatives for a variety of<br />
companiespositions that typically involve little more<br />
than distributing additional freebies to their classmates<br />
and organizing one or two free lunchtime lectures. In<br />
return for their efforts, these student representatives are<br />
generally paid between $750 and $2,000 per semester.<br />
Some companies employ as many as two student representatives<br />
in each of the 4 veterinary college classes,<br />
whereas others employ only a single representative for<br />
each class or a single representative for the entire college.<br />
Regardless, the upshot is that there are typically<br />
one or two corporate-sponsored free lunches each week<br />
for veterinary students, and the corporate presence in<br />
the veterinary college is palpable.</blockquote>In addition to the conscious and unconscious effects these gifts and sponsorships may have on students ideas and practices far beyond veterinary school (which is discussed well in the commentary) it leaves the profession as a whole open to other criticisms. Often one of the first accusations used to defend alternative practices or denigrate any science-based treatment which is produced by a pharmaceutical company is that veterinarians are just shills for "big pharma" or "big pet food". The same companies often sponsor veterinary conferences and seminars for veterinarians as well. The alternative veterinary industry really should not throw this particular stone, as their conferences are <a href="http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2010/10/the-ahvma-bought-and-paid-for-by-big-supplement/">sponsored by supplement manufacturers</a> and other companies to a similar extent.<br />
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The things that I found particularly disturbing about the commentary were the discussion of how these practices are tacitly and actively supported by the veterinary school with very little time spent educating the students on how they may be influenced by them. This is yet another way that veterinary schools are failing to teach their students critical thinking skills and how to evaluate evidence. This type of corporate influence may be even more insidious than teaching alternative practices which are not evidence based in a credulous manner. Students really should be taught how to critically analyze the claims of all of the players in the veterinary industry, from the pharmaceutical companies to the promoters of supplements and alternative treatments. Increasing the access companies have to students as described in this commentary really does open the door for legitimate criticism, as well as giving charlatans something to point to to distract from their own lack of evidence.<br />
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I commend Michelle Dally for her commentary and for drawing attention to this topic.<br />
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Citation; <br />
<div class="journalTitle"><a href="http://avmajournals.avma.org/loi/javma">Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association</a></div><div class="black9pt"> June 15, 2011, Vol. 238, No. 12, Pages 1551-1554 </div><div class="black9pt">doi: 10.2460/javma.238.12.1551</div><br />
<div class="arttitle">Ethical considerations raised by the provision of freebies to veterinary students</div><div class="Authors"> <span class="name noWrap">Michelle Dally</span>, JD </div><div class="affiliations">College of Veterinary Medicine and Biomedical Sciences. Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523. (Dally)</div><div class="first last">Ms. Dally was a second-year veterinary student at the time of submission.</div>Bartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4377960011681266299.post-43888708164755463292011-05-29T21:29:00.000-07:002011-05-29T21:30:38.424-07:00Cancer, Autoimmune disease and MHC diversity-should we blame vague toxins and food or inbreeding and closed registries?It is common among proponents of certain types of diets and supplements (raw diets, the "evolution" diet, and many types of herbal supplements) to claim that cancer and autoimmune diseases are caused by unidentified "toxins" in commercial foods, vaccines or simply toxins from the environment. Unfortunately, some breeders and even some veterinarians, particularly the "CAVM" crowd, have bought into these ideas, and sometimes try to require new puppy owners to feed specific foods, delay or avoid vaccinations and sometimes avoid certain types of exercise in an attempt to avoid problems that have a strong genetic basis.<br />
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Many ideas about breeding dogs date back to the Victorian era when little to nothing was known about genetics and their relationship to the function of the immune system, and ideas of pure blood and avoiding undesirable mixing of different breeds were considered to be the appropriate way to "improve" dogs and other animals. Unfortunately, these ideas were institutionalized and perpetuated through kennel clubs and many breed clubs in the form of policies that allow and even encourage inbreeding (often called "line breeding") and specifically prohibit out-crosses for any reason. The only way to try to eliminate a problem under this system is to eliminate individuals carrying the undesirable genes, which may remove one problem, but is likely to further constrict the gene pool and cause other problems at the same time. While the "holistic" veterinary medicine crowd tries to blame toxins and vaccines, and the large kennel clubs do their best to ignore the underlying problems with their policies, scientists have been working hard to identify the reasons why some breeds are so much more susceptible to certain types of cancer and autoimmune diseases than other dogs or less inbred dogs are.<br />
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The underlying genetics associated with susceptibility to several autoimmune diseases and cancers have been discovered in the last few years. While we have known that certain breeds have much higher incidences of certain diseases than others for years (some diseases are named for the breeds which they occur in most frequently), the complexity of the immune system and the genetics associated with it means that only recently have we started to unravel how this affects the health of our pets. There are two main types of Major Histocompatability Complex (MHC) genes in vertebrates-which are also one of the most polymorphic sets of genes in vertebrates-which are involved with identifying different proteins (antigens) and presenting them to the immune system as "self" or "non-self". This is how the immune system regulates which things to attack and remove (bacteria, cells infected by viruses, cancer cells, etc.) and which things to leave alone (normal cells, harmless proteins from food and the environment). In general, having a larger number of diverse MHC genes means that the immune system is better equipped to identify and distinguish good and bad antigens in the body.<br />
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In the last few years, researchers have identified <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17445218">varying MHC diversity</a> in different dog breeds. Although it is probably still quite early to use MHC haplotype testing to test for suceptiblity to most diseases, such testing is <a href="http://www.genoscoper.com/in_english2/">starting to become available</a>. Many studies have been done identifying specific problems and relationships of specific MHC haplotypes with specific diseases. Some examples include; <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17176441">Autoimmune Hemolytic anemia</a>, <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16774545">Hypothyroidism</a>, <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17360184">Canine Masticatory Myositis</a>, <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19636550">Toller arthritis</a> (a disease similar to Lupus), <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21144596">Canine chronic superficial keratitis</a>, and <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20946186">Doberman Hepatitis</a>. These are just a few of the heritable autoimmune diseases which occur in dogs, and active research continues. MHC diversity is also important for detecting and eliminating cancers, and a lot of research has been done into <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20963591">transmissible tumors</a> in an attempt to discover a way to fight<br />
<a href="http://www.pnas.org/content/104/41/16221.long">Devil facial tumor disease</a> in Tasmanian Devils. This research is helping to show how many types of tumors in addition to transmissible tumors evade the immune system. Some inheritable diseases have unsurprisingly been <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21597649">discovered to be unrelated</a> to the MHC genes as well.<br />
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This body of research is providing both a broad knowledge of how limited gene pools increase the risk of autoimmune disease and cancer, and which specific genes affect susceptibility to specific diseases. While this line of research will result in specific tests for many of these diseases, eliminating carriers from the population may further restrict genetic variability and is very likely to cause other problems. It would be a much better idea to try to increase diversity in HLA haplotypes first, before eliminating undesirable genes. In some cases, this may mean outcrosses from other breeds to introduce the desirable genetic diversity. In the rare casees that this has been tried, the kennel clubs and breed organizations have <a href="http://pedigreedogsexposed.blogspot.com/2011/03/fiona-at-crufts-win-for-breed.html">not reacted positively</a>. Another problem is that often kennel clubs and breed organizations fund genetic research on purebred dogs, which may<a href="http://pedigreedogsexposed.blogspot.com/2011/03/silent-witness.html"> deter criticism</a> from organized veterinary medicine.Even worse, the "holistic" or CAVM crowd <a href="http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2011/04/holistic-breeding/#comments">enthusiastically promote</a> a wide variety of diets, supplements, and even antivaccine nonsense while ignoring the growing body of evidence of genetic problems in purebred dogs. "Holistic" indeed.<br />
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For further discussion of these issues in dogs and other animals, see these thoughtful posts;<br />
Pedigree dogs Exposed-<a href="http://pedigreedogsexposed.blogspot.com/2010/12/how-to-breed-dogs-with-stronger-immune.html">How to breed dogs with stronger immune systems</a>. <br />
Border Wars-<a href="http://www.astraean.com/borderwars/?s=Inbred+mistakes">Inbred Mistakes</a>.<br />
Desert Wind Hounds-<a href="http://desertwindhounds.blogspot.com/2010/11/closed-registries-dogs-in-handbasket-to.html">MHC, DLA, WTF</a>?<br />
Retrieverman-<a href="http://retrieverman.wordpress.com/2010/12/13/misunderstanding-the-concept-of-inbreeding-tolerance/">Misunderstanding the concept of inbreeding tolerance</a>.Bartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4377960011681266299.post-59973857362752468702011-04-14T09:02:00.000-07:002011-04-14T09:40:01.146-07:00Veterinary Homeopaths don't like criticism.Please see <a href="http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2011/04/the-science-of-homeopathy/#comments">this post</a> over at The SkeptVet blog; witin 24 hours it is recieving threatening comments from one of the veterinary homeopath's through the North American Veterinary Conference, who should know better. Please repost if you can.Bartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4377960011681266299.post-17378617886611767042011-04-10T20:37:00.000-07:002011-04-10T20:37:31.184-07:00Evidence for using caution with herbal medications in cats.<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv330/MrPerkins/DSC00944.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="180" src="http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv330/MrPerkins/DSC00944.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://media.photobucket.com/image/cats%20eating/MrPerkins/DSC00944.jpg?o=62">photobucket</a></div><div style="text-align: center;"> </div><div style="text-align: left;">Veterinarians have known for a long time that cats do not handle certain drugs as well a dogs and other animals do. Drugs such as aspirin, acetaminophen, and other NSAIDs can be much more toxic to cats than to other animals. If we give them to cats at all, they are given in very low, infrequent doses (aspirin) or not at all (acetaminophen). We have known for a long time that cats<a href="http://www.addl.purdue.edu/newsletters/1998/spring/acet.shtml"> have much lower levels</a> of the liver enzymes which humans and other animals use to metabolize these drugs. Cats are considered "hypercarnivores", meaning they are adapted to a diet that is 70% or more animal matter. Since most drugs are quite recent inventions, it is obvious that these enzymes did not evolve in response to the drugs which they metabolize but to something else.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: left;">A <a href="http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0018046">recent paper on PLoS One</a> has worked out the genetics behind this enzyme difference in cats (and a few other animals). These enzymes (Glucuronyltransferases) have developed over many millions of years to deal with toxins found in plants used for food. In species such as cats that do not eat many plants, there is no selective pressure to maintain this type of enzyme function, and mutations can cause the genes coding for them to become inactive. This is what has happened in cats with these particular enzymes, with the result that certain drugs that are chemically similar to some types of plant toxins are much more toxic to cats than they are to other species. This type of issue with drug metabolism is known as a "species defect". While the specific difference in metabolism being discussed here is one of the best known and documented of these species defects, other <a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&safe=off&q=author%3ACaldwell+%22The%20current%20status%20of%20attempts%20to%20predict%20species%20differences%20in%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20drug%20metabolism.%22">less well documented</a> differences occur as well.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: left;">This has important implications for not only the use of pharmaceuticals of known and controlled dosages, but even more importantly for the use of herbal medications in different species. The problems with herbal medicines are best described in David Colquhoun's <a href="http://www.dcscience.net/?page_id=733">Patients Guide to Magic Medicine</a> as "Herbal medicine: giving patients an unknown dose of an ill-defined drug, of unknown effectiveness and unknown safety." The bit about unknown safety is especially applicable in the case of the types of species defects in metabolism that we are discussing here. While some of them are well known, giving an herbal medication that has many different chemical compounds in it may increase the risk of adverse reactions. In addition, the actual dose of active ingredients in herbal products is often very variable, so a product that seems safe when taken once may be toxic the next time. Just because herbs are natural does not mean they are safe, and animals have evolved a lot of natural variability in sensitivity to plant compounds, as this paper documents.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />
</div>Bartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4377960011681266299.post-13575236156503616192011-03-27T22:00:00.000-07:002011-03-27T22:00:52.523-07:00More evidence that acupuncture does not really work. There have been several new developments in the evidence base for the effectiveness of acupuncture recently. The first, and more important is a recent systematic review of the evidence for the effectiveness of acupuncture for pain. The Skept Vet has addressed this review in detail <a href="http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2011/03/a-review-of-reviews-of-acupuncture-for-pain-might-work-might-not-could-kill-you-but-probably-wont/">here</a>. In short, the review found that the evidence for pain relief in general was contradictory and weak, with the possibility of rare but serious side effects to consider as well. As The Skept Vet points out this type of mild, patient expectation-related effect (placebo effect) may not exist in our animal patients, and any perceived effect may be due more to owner and clinician expectation and observation bias than to any real effect felt by the patient.<br />
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Another human study was published recently on the <a href="http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0014766">effects of acupuncture on nausea in humans</a> being treated for cancer. This study is interesting because it is one of the few studies which included not only a standard care control group, but also had a sham acupuncture group in addition to the acupuncture group. The sham group involved both a telescopic sham needle and a sham acupuncture point to help control for both patient perception and any effect possibly related to the specific acupuncture point used. The sample sizes in this study were not huge, but were better than many other acupuncture studies, with 62 (standard treatment), 88 (acupuncture) and 95 (sham acupuncture) patients completing the study. The participants in the study were also interviewed top measure their expectations related to the treatment.<br />
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The results of the study showed that both the acupuncture and sham acupuncture groups had lower levels of nausea and vomiting than the standard care group, and that this effect was strongly correlated to patient expectations. While the therapists applying the acupuncture were not blinded, the results between the two groups were not significantly different. This study is better controlled than most acupuncture studies in the past have been despite the lack of double blinding. This reinforces the view that many skeptics have that the apparent effects of acupuncture on subjective symptoms such as the perception of pain and nausea may be due to patient expectation rather than any specific physiological effect of the acupuncture itself. Veterinarians claiming that acupuncture is effective should be very careful-their patients may be experiencing some discomfort or pain related to the acupuncture, without any benefit of expectation of improvement, while the veterinarian and owner may believe they see improvement because of their own expectations and desire to help. While an argument may be made that inducing positive expectations in human patients may be useful for managing problems such as pain and nausea, this should be done without misleading the patient or exposing them to risks of serious side effects. In the case of animal patients, it is probably unrealistic to assume that they have the same type of expectation of benefit, and we should be doubly careful to be sure the treatments we use have good evidence of effectiveness.Bartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4377960011681266299.post-9901734761456504542011-02-14T19:25:00.000-08:002011-02-14T19:25:56.840-08:00Pedigree dogs-many health problems are genetic, despite what some say.<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/Yku1MSa5vRY?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div> A short video well worth watching if you are not familiar with the problems associated with breed standards and the inbreeding allowed and even encouraged by the large kennel clubs. Unfortunately, many breeders do not understand these problems well enough either and often blame (often with the encouragement of holistic vets) vaccines, ill defined "toxins", commercial dog food, and sometimes the owners for problems that quite clearly have strong genetic components, even when not entirely genetic diseases. These problems have not really received enough attention from organized and science and evidence-based veterinarians, but the alternative and integrative veterinarians seem to be <a href="http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2011/02/integrative-medicine-or-bait-and-switch/">exploiting them</a> without any mention of the responsibility the kennel clubs and breeders hold for creating so many health problems in the first place.Bartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4377960011681266299.post-18139835431944015812011-02-13T21:23:00.000-08:002011-02-13T21:23:43.327-08:00Nonsense On Stilts by Massimo Pigliucci<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.press.uchicago.edu/dms/ucp/books/jacket/978/02/26/66/9780226667867.jpeg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="http://www.press.uchicago.edu/dms/ucp/books/jacket/978/02/26/66/9780226667867.jpeg" /></a></div><a href="http://www.press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/N/bo5812109.html">Nonsense on Stilts</a>, Massimos Pigliucci's most recent book is and interesting read for anyone interested in distinguishing science from pseudoscience, or from "bunk". The author also discusses the book on the Rationally Speaking podcast, produced by the New York City Skeptics.<br />
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While the book does not directly address CAM, it is an interesting and detailed look at the development of science from an historical and philosophical viewpoint that provides a lot of insight into what makes a subject or field scientific, proto-scientific, or just plain nonsense. It includes interesting discussions of what the differences and similarities are between different fields of science (physics and biology, for example) and how something like SETI may not be currently considered science due to it's lack of evidence, but could become scientific if such evidence is found. Some types of alternative medicine clearly fit into the bunk category (homeopathy, reflexology, Reiki, traditional chinese acupuncture) due to the lack of evidence for effectiveness and the complete lack of plausible mechanisms for action. Other things such as herbal medicine can be scientific or not depending on how they are approached by the people pursuing them.<br />
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The book is well worth reading for anyone interested in a deeper understanding of how science can be understood as a process practiced by humans, and how it has developed over time. It will give you a better understanding of what science is and how to evaluate claims about different topics.Bartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4377960011681266299.post-90410948027507514242010-12-30T20:44:00.000-08:002010-12-30T20:44:49.369-08:00Dr. Palmquist continues to abuse science on HuffPo.I <a href="http://skeptivet.blogspot.com/2010/06/veterinary-nonsense-on-huffington-post.html">wrote last summer</a> about Dr. Richard Palmquist's first post on Huffington Post, and how his idea of science does not match science as most people understand it. He continues to rely heavily on emotional anecdotes, confuses correlation with causation, and lists a lot of scientific sounding references which usually are of poor quality or do not support his conclusions. In his <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-palmquist-dvm/integrative-medical-break_b_800344.html" rel="nofollow">most recent post</a>, he continues the pattern he established with his first post, but this time promoting the homotoxicolgy ideas he is fond of as scientific advances.<br />
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He begins his post with a description of an old cocker spaniel with multiple benign skin tumors that is about to have surgery to remove the masses. As in his other posts, Dr. Palmquist presents these anecdotes in such a dramatic and emotional fashion that it is difficult to tell if he is describing the case accurately, exaggerating, or just making up a good story. That said, I don't know that I have seen a 13 year old cocker spaniel that did <u>not</u> have multiple sebaceous adenomas. Sebaceous adenomas, cysts and other benign masses on or just under the skin are very common in older dogs, and are even more prevalent in certain breeds such as cocker spaniels. I am not sure why anyone thought it was necessary to remove all of the adenomas-as small benign tumors it is fairly common to leave them alone and simply monitor them for problems like inflammation, infection or bleeding. If benign masses like sebaceous adenomas are stable and not causing any problems, most veterinarians will not insist on removing them surgically, and sometimes they will resolve on their own. Often they will bother the animal's owner more than the animal, which is one reason to remove them, and since they are usually fairly small, superficial skin tumors, they can often be removed fairly easily using a reversible sedative, local anesthetics, and a few days of fairly safe pain relievers, so Dr. Plamquist's representation of the surgery as quite painful, seems like an exaggeration, as well as the impression that not doing the surgery is some kind of revolutionary idea on his part. Where He really goes off the rails however, is in his representation to the owner that the adenomas, which very likely have a genetic component to their development because of their high incidence in certain breeds, are caused by ill-defined "toxins" and should be treated with a variety of homeopathic preparations. If the adenomas really resolved on their own as Dr. Palmquist describes, it is more likely to be a result of inflammation related to the previous biopsies (described as "special testing" in the post) or simply a coincidence than due to the homeopathic remedies he provided. Some of the remedies made by Heel are low dilutions, so there is the possibility that there was some active ingredient in the treatment, but the dose was still likely to be very small. Amusingly, the one mass that did not resolve on it's own is explained away as being on an acupuncture point. Somehow the point or the tumor magically "knows" something and is trying to tell us the dog needs it there to maintain circulation to the brain and cognitive ability. There are some Chinese studies that claim to demonstrate this type of benefit, but unfortunately <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9551280">nearly all studies of acupuncture from china are positive</a>, suggesting <a href="http://www.sram.org/0802/acupuncture.html">publication and other biases</a>, which make it difficult to evaluate such studies. There has not been any research replicating these findings elsewhere. Because of this magical location on an acupuncture point, they decided to watch the tumor, which has been stable for years. As I said before, many veterinarians will do the same thing with no need to come up with magical rationalizations for it.<br />
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These ideas come from a early to mid 20th century offshoot of homeopathy called "<a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Homotoxicology">homotoxicolgy</a>". Hans-Heinrich Reckeweg, the inventor of homotoxiclogy, denied the germ theory of infectious disease and included vaccines and pharmaceutical treatments in the "toxins" which he thought needed to be removed from the body. <a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Heel">Heel</a>, the company founded by Reckeweg, has been in trouble in the past for fraudulent claims and marketing of it's products, and a <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15197516">review</a> of randomized trials of Heel products by Edzard Ernst and K. Schmidt revealed serious flaws in the studies and a lack of evidence supporting their use. For a self-proclaimed "research geek", the references Dr. Palmquist supplies to support his views seem to be accepted credulously and uncritically, and perhaps with the expectation that nobody will actually check to see what the references actually say. Most of the studies are in-vitro, preliminary and published in questionable journals such as <i>Medical Hypotheses</i> or alternative medicine journals which are often uncritical of poor studies and biased toward promoting their particular modality. One of the references has been thoroughly discussed by <a href="http://scepticsbook.com/2010/02/14/a-giant-leap-in-logic-from-a-piece-of-bad-science/">Dr. Rachie</a> and <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/03/a_homeopathic_bit_of_breast_cancer_scien.php">Orac</a>, (shockingly, the 87% alcohol used as diluent for the remedies is toxic to cancer cells in vitro!) the Cochrane review provides very weak support despite being authored by homeopaths. the authors concluded; <br />
<div style="text-align: justify;"> "This review found preliminary data in support of the efficacy of topical calendula for prophylaxis of acute dermatitis during radiotherapyand Traumeel S mouthwash in the treatment of chemotherapy-induced stomatitis. These trials need replicating. There is no convincingevidence for the efficacy of homeopathic medicines for other adverse effects of cancer treatments. Further research is required."</div><div style="text-align: justify;">The one study of companion animals published in a more mainstream journal (Neumann S, Stolt P, Braun G, Hellmann K, Reinhart E. 2010. Effectiveness of the Homeopathic Preparation Zeel Compared with Carprofen in Dogs with Osteoarthritis. J Am Anim Hosp Assoc. Dec 16. [Epub ahead of print]) was uncontrolled, unblinded, and has other problems, including an average age difference of nearly 3 years between the two treatment groups, with the younger group recieving the homeopathic remedy. This study was also funded by Heel, the producer of the homeopathic remedy.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;">Finally, Dr. Palmquist describes how he thinks medicine should "work", by which he means new therapies should be developed. Unfortunately, the order of investigation he describes is somewhat backward. Plausibility should be the first test for any treatment, and his statement that homeopathic remedies have been proven to work and have understandable mechanisms flies in the face of our understanding of basic physics and chemistry, and is only accepted by true believers in homeopathy. Anecdotal evidence for effectiveness is not a reliable way to discover new treatments and is only a very preliminary way to start to investigate a new treatment. Exceedingly implausible treatments like homeopathy are probably not worth studying further, as preliminary weakly positive results are likely to be the result of bias, coincidence and random chance. These type of preliminary positive results seem to always disappear in better designed trials of homeopathy. While I am sure Dr. Palmquist means well, he is a poster child for demonstrating how cognitive errors and wishful thinking can lead us down a path full of dead ends and useless therapies. Unfortunately, his influence as president of the AHVMA and a member of AAHA gives him an undeserved platform to promote his delusions. In this case, no harm was done to the patient, but sometimes the result is not so good.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div>Bartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4377960011681266299.post-61801382497435869462010-12-30T16:09:00.000-08:002011-02-03T15:56:50.601-08:00Life and Death in the winter snow.I noticed feathers falling past my front window this afternoon and looked outside to find this Sharp-Shinned Hawk eating a small bird in the Ponderosa Pine tree in the front yard. The temperature outside was 13 degrees Fahrenheit. A small bird needs to consume a lot of calories to survive in these temperatures.<br />
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</div>Bartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4377960011681266299.post-41286177478440755462010-12-08T19:54:00.000-08:002010-12-08T19:54:45.320-08:00Twisting facts to suit "theory". How smart people can fool themselves. “It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories instead of theories to suit facts.”<br />
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It often seems strange how frequently smart, well educated people seem to fall for pseudoscience. Doctors and Veterinarians are certainly no exception, and it is not unusual to see veterinarians recommending poorly evidenced treatments or even treatments with evidence against their effectiveness. People often ask how a trained medical professional can fall for such things and then promote them. In addition to regression to the mean, selection bias and other cognitive errors, we are all prone to the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusion_of_control">illusion of control</a>. A recent paper in the <a href="http://bpsoc.publisher.ingentaconnect.com/content/bpsoc/bjp/pre-prints/bjp898">British Journal of Psychology</a> (discussion by <a href="http://www.badscience.net/2010/12/illusions-of-control/#more-1871">Ben Goldacre here</a> as the entire paper is behind a paywall) helps to demonstrate how this illusion can develop in medical professionals and suggests some ways to avoid it. Unfortunately, many veterinary school curricula and continuing education rely heavily on a fairly authoritarian presentation of information and rote memorization that do not help students to learn to evaluate claims critically and understand the evidence base behind various treatments.<br />
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In <a href="http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2010/11/politics-trumps-science-continuing-education-credit-for-pseudoscience-thanks-to-the-ahvma/comment-page-1/#comment-14338">recent</a> <a href="http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2010/06/shocking-study-chiropractors-make-unsubsttantiated-medical-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-9662">comments</a> on The SkeptVet Blog, several different people have suggested that skeptics should not criticize alternative treatments until they have tried them.This advice is given without an awareness of how easily we all make cognitive errors and how those errors can give us an illusory view of the effectiveness of our treatments. To be fair, we are all just as susceptible to this type of cognitive error no matter what type of treatment we are using, and we should always be wary of misdiagnosis or inappropriate treatment selection, situations in which these types of cognitive errors are common in both evidence based and alternative medical treatments. It underlines the importance of blinded, controlled trials, and the evaluation of the strength of the evidence supporting any treatment in as objective a way as possible. "Trying it for yourself" is just a good way to fool yourself, and the more confident you are in your experience and ability, the more likely you are to believe that an ineffective treatment works. This new psychological paper just demonstrates the idea again in a relevant way.Bartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4377960011681266299.post-29157176609732541052010-10-21T22:33:00.000-07:002010-10-21T22:33:46.099-07:00Bad Science<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51FJuyzaoML._SL500_AA300_.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51FJuyzaoML._SL500_AA300_.jpg" /></a></div><br />
An <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Bad-Science-Ben-Goldacre/dp/0771035780/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1287725561&sr=8-2">excellent read</a>, with well written descriptions of how ineffective treatments can seem to work, and how smart people can believe that they do. Recently released in the US, so pick one up if you are interested.Bartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4377960011681266299.post-34266811591091020352010-10-14T19:06:00.000-07:002010-10-14T19:08:17.211-07:00Discovering a new species; what kind of evidence is good enough?<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.treehugger.com/first-carnivore-discovered-24-years.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><br />
</a></div>Well, the <a href="http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/10/first-new-carnivorous-mammal-discovered-in-24-years.php?campaign=th_rss">actual animal in hand</a> is usually sufficient. Scientists are still discovering new species (unknown to science, if not to the local residents) on a regular basis. For some reason, it is biologists making these finds, not cryptozoologists, who seem to spend more time either chasing after or perpetrating hoaxes rather than finding real evidence for unknown animals. While a large primate living in North America would be an amazing discovery, the fact that no one has found any definitive evidence in the form of a body, bones, DNA, or even fossil evidence would seem to indicate that the probability of it's existence is close to zero. The real animals still being discovered are fascinating enough.<br />
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Photo credit; <a href="http://www.durrell.org/">Durrell Wildlife Conservation Trust </a>Bartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4377960011681266299.post-42379080501971861102010-09-25T21:44:00.000-07:002010-09-25T21:44:51.951-07:00An Anti-vaccine Veterinarian-an interesting mix of pseudoscience, faith, and nonsense.A particularly egregious example of an anti-vaccine veterinarian was brought to my attention recently (hat tip to <a href="http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2010/09/some-sick-stuff.html">Terrierman</a>). Dr.Patricia Jordan has published online a <a href="http://www.thedogplace.org/VACCINES/Genetic-Impact-10073_Jordan.asp" rel="nofollow">poster</a> she presented at the 5th annual joint North American Homeopathic Conference this year. Her <a href="http://www.dr-jordan.com/" rel="nofollow">personal website</a> (titled "Mark of The Beast-hidden in plain sight-the case against vaccinations" by which she appears to mean that vaccinations are the mark of the beast) also reveals similar ideas which add up to an interesting mix of misinterpreted and misrepresented science, what appears to be the influence of evangelical style christian creationism, big-pharma and government conspiracy theories, and just plain making things up to suit her ideology. This type of ridiculous reasoning is one of the things that makes me very skeptical of information coming from alternative medicine professional organizations such as the American Holistic Veterinary Medical Association or Homeopathic associations-all to often they seem to accept ideas such as Dr. Jordan's uncritically.<br />
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From the Curriculum Vitae page on her website, it would appear that Dr. Jordan had a distinguished undergraduate and veterinary school career in the 1980's with several externships and even some type of award for epidemiology. Since the late 1990's it would seem that she has not found a variety of alternative medicine she does not like, including Reiki, homeopathy, acupuncture, traditional Chinese medicine, spinal manipulation and "pulse diagnosis". The legitimate scientific veterinary conferences and seminars she has attended in that time appear to consist mostly of vaccine related events, which she has apparently interpreted as evidence that vaccines are the cause of nearly all disease and some kind of spiritual menace. She conveniently ignores the fact that many vaccine preventable diseases in animals and humans have huge costs in mortality and morbidity by orders of magnitude over any evidence for adverse effects of vaccinations. It makes me wonder if she has ever seen a case of canine distemper, parvovirus or Rabies, or any of the other viruses we routinely prevent with vaccination.<br />
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To be fair, there has been a legitimate scientific debate over vaccination of pets over the last 10-20 years which has resulted in some significant changes in vaccination protocols for pets. All Rabies vaccines were changed to killed virus vaccines in the 1980's when it was found that the modified live virus vaccines could, in rare cases, cause rabies. In cats, this had the unintended result of causing malignant tumors in some cats (1). This can also happen in dogs, but is much more rare than it's incidence in cats, which has been reported between one in 1,000 to one in 10,000 cats. Other adverse effects of vaccination are primarily acute and delayed allergic reactions, with very little evidence that other diseases, such as autoimmune disease, other types of cancer, neurological or behavioral diseases are caused by vaccination. For a detailed analysis of these issues, visit The SkeptVet <a href="http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2009/06/veterinary-vaccines-fact-and-fiction/">here</a>. While vaccinations can trigger allergic reactions and on rare occasions various autoimmune diseases, this is not proof that the vaccination causes these problems. The greatly varying incidence of allergies and autoimmune disease among different breeds would suggest underlying genetic susceptibilities, and any naturally acquired infection or allergen exposure is as likely or more likely to trigger an outbreak as a vaccination is. As evidence has accumulated about the duration of immunity from vaccination, most veterinarians have switched from annual vaccination protocols to 3-4 year protocols for most vaccines, and I would not be surprised if some of these were extended even more as more evidence is accumulated for longer duration of immunity. Despite this active scientific evaluation of animal vaccination over the past decade or so, Dr. Jordan seems to have decided for ideological reasons that all vaccinations are bad. Lets look at some of the claims she makes and compare them with the science.<br />
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This paragraph from Dr. Jordan's poster illustrates many of the distortions and errors which she makes;<br />
<blockquote><div align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;"> Only vaccinated individuals were found to develop auto <b>antibodies</b> in a landmark study done at <b>Perdue University.</b> Auto antibodies are made with the vaccines from the viruses, from the microbial antigens, from the aluminum and mercury and other ingredients that would mutate or disrupt the pathogen. The increase of molecular mimicry increases with vaccines and these examples of pathways to increase the number of auto antibodies formed the trigger necessary to promote genetic expression of autoimmune disease. Certainly, autoimmune disease expression is one step closer to genetic disease and that handicap will transfer vertically to the next generation in many instances. The important understanding is that the adulteration of the genome came in via the injection of vaccine. </div> </blockquote>It is true that several scientists at Purdue have done a lot of work evaluating the efficacy and potential adverse effects of vaccination in dogs (examples of their work in references 2, 3, and <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12184701">4</a>). However, auto antibodies are antibodies which react to normal tissues in the body, and may be formed by exposure to animal protein contaminants of vaccines, and occasionally from injuries to tissues such as the lens of the eye, not normally from viral or bacterial antigens, or by exposure to the small amounts of aluminum or mercury present in some vaccines. Let's see what they have to say from reference 3;<br />
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<blockquote> <b><span style="font-size: x-small;">To date, routine vaccination of these Beagles has not caused any overt signs of clinical disease. However, the blood of all the vaccinated dogs contains significantly elevated concentrations of antibodies directed against proteins that are present in commercial vaccines as contaminants of the production process. None of the unvaccinated control dogs has had a similar increase in these antibodies. These proteins are typically of bovine origin since fetal calf serum is used to grow the viruses for vaccine production. The close similarity in structure of the bovine proteins to dog proteins results in a situation whereby the antibodies produced by the vaccinated dogs may cross-react with dog tissue proteins in a process similar to autoimmunity. Experiments in other animal species suggest that these autoantibodies might eventually cause diseases in the vaccinated animals, but these</span> <span style="font-size: x-small;"><br />
Beagle dogs will need to be followed longer to determine if this is the case. In addition, the pattern of individual responses of the immune system to vaccination in this study suggests a possible genetic predisposition to autoimmunity.</span></b></blockquote>(this paper appears to have been published online and is no longer available at Purdue's website-this extract was taken from a<a href="http://www.doglogic.com/purduevaccinestudy.htm"> breeder's website</a>). These results are much more preliminary than Dr. Jordan or some breeders make them out to be, and while they are cause for concern and may be reason to change vaccine production methods, there is no mention of the vaccine directly causing mutations. I have not been able to find any evidence that vaccines cause "adulteration of the genome" which is transferable to the next generation. Perhaps one of the most insidious results of this type of reasoning is that some breeders use it to blame problems caused by inbreeding on vaccination instead. The Purdue paper seems to be commonly misused in this way on many breeder's and "holistic" veterinarian's websites. Unfortunately Dr. Jordan and others are taking a legitimate scientific controversy and distorting it beyond all recognition and far beyond the actual evidence. This quote from Dr. Jordan's personal website's mission statement illustrates in her own words how she has abandoned evidence and science for the ideologically based view she prefers;<br />
<blockquote> It was a decade out of medical school before I clearly saw that the beliefs of modern medicine were simply beliefs and not in alignment with the innate wisdom of the body. Vaccines and drugs are at odds with the intelligence of the almighty design and getting back to the garden means getting back to the natural form and using the optimal nutrition, energetic repair and right relationship of living.</blockquote>There are many more examples of distorted ideas about evolution and the immune system in Dr. Jordan's poster and website. Since she does not list any references(there are no references on the poster and the references and resources pages on her website are blank), it is difficult to discover where she gets most of her ideas. Many probably come from her own head, and others are from sources I was unable to track down.<br />
In any case, following ideas such as these would be extraordinarily dangerous for pets and humans, indeed far more dangerous than vaccinations have ever been. For an excellent discussion of the relative risks and consequences of antivaccine movements on the human side, see Prometheus' recent post <a href="http://photoninthedarkness.com/?p=197">here</a>. It is sad that Dr. Jordan seems more interested in fear mongering and selling books than rationally evaluating the evidence.<br />
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References;<br />
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<div class="journalTitle"><a href="http://avmajournals.avma.org/loi/javma">1.Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association</a></div><div class="black9pt">June 1, 2005, Vol. 226, No. 11, Pages 1821-1842 </div><div class="black9pt">doi: 10.2460/javma.2005.226.1821</div><br />
<div class="arttitle">The current understanding and management of vaccine-associated sarcomas in cats<br />
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<div class="journalTitle"><a href="http://avmajournals.avma.org/loi/javma">2.Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association</a></div><div class="black9pt">July 1, 2007, Vol. 231, No. 1, Pages 94-100 </div><div class="black9pt">doi: 10.2460/javma.231.1.94</div><br />
<div class="arttitle">Adverse events after vaccine administration in cats: 2,560 cases (2002–2005)</div><div class="Authors"><span class="name noWrap">George E. Moore</span>, DVM, PhD, DACVPM, DACVIM; <span class="name noWrap">Andrea C. DeSantis-Kerr</span>, DVM; <span class="name noWrap">Lynn F. Guptill</span>, DVM, PhD, DACVIM; <span class="name noWrap">Nita W. Glickman</span>, MPH, PhD; <span class="name noWrap">Hugh B. Lewis</span>, BVMS, DACVP; <span class="name noWrap">Lawrence T. Glickman</span>, VMD, DrPH </div><div class="Authors"></div><div align="left"><b><span style="font-size: x-small;"></span> </b> </div><br />
<div align="left"><span style="font-size: x-small;"><b><span style="font-size: small;">3.Effects Of Vaccination On The Endocrine And Immune Systems of Dogs, Phase II</span></b></span> <span style="font-size: small;"><b> Purdue University, November 1, 1999 </b></span><b><span style="font-size: x-small;"><br />
Drs. Harm HogenEsch and Larry T. Glickman </span> </b> </div></div><div class="Authors"><span class="name noWrap"> </span><span class="wbr"><img alt="" class="entityD" src="http://avmajournals.avma.org/entityImage/?code=200B" /></span><br />
<div class="citation"><span class="wbr">4.</span><a href="" title="Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association.">J Am Vet Med Assoc.</a> 2002 Aug 15;221(4):515-21.</div><h1 class="title"><span style="font-size: small;">Evaluation of antithyroglobulin antibodies after routine vaccination in pet and research dogs.</span></h1><div class="auth_list"><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Scott-Moncrieff%20JC%22%5BAuthor%5D">Scott-Moncrieff JC</a>, <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Azcona-Olivera%20J%22%5BAuthor%5D">Azcona-Olivera J</a>, <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Glickman%20NW%22%5BAuthor%5D">Glickman NW</a>, <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Glickman%20LT%22%5BAuthor%5D">Glickman LT</a>, <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22HogenEsch%20H%22%5BAuthor%5D">HogenEsch H</a>.</div><div class="aff">Department of Veterinary Clinical Sciences, College of Veterinary Medicine, Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN 47907, USA.</div><span class="wbr"> </span> </div><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=4377960011681266299" name="citart1"><br clear="right" /></a>Bartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.com10tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4377960011681266299.post-34402721722367303452010-08-24T10:04:00.000-07:002011-05-30T19:18:41.835-07:00"Heads I win, Tails You Lose"<a href="http://www.csicop.org/si/show/heads_i_win_tails_you_loser_how_parapsychologists_nullify_null_results/">This is an excellent article</a> by Richard Wiseman on psi research and how studies are poorly designed, statistics are misused, and results are distorted to support psi research. Many of these problems are also common to many types of CAM research and unfortunately, sometimes other medical researh as well, so this is a useful article to keep in mind when evaluating medical claims. Basically, it illustrates many things which pseudoscience and sometimes just bad science does which should be kept in mind when critically evaluating claims.Bartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4377960011681266299.post-35354709109936237942010-08-09T21:28:00.000-07:002010-08-09T21:28:28.263-07:00Raw Milk; the myths and the evidence.I wanted to draw attention to a new website dealing with the scientific evidence relating to human consumption of raw milk. There are many claims that raw milk is better than pasteurized milk, most of which are based on anecdotes and testimonials, and not on stronger evidence. On the other hand, there is a lot of evidence that bacterial contamination of raw milk can cause serious illness and even death in humans, especially in susceptible people such as very young children, the elderly, and anyone with a suppressed immune system. While some of the bacteria which commonly occurred in raw milk (bovine tuberculosis and Brucella) have been eliminated from livestock in the United States and much of Europe, there are still several types of bacteria that can cause serious illness, especially in high risk groups. This is important because some of the claims made for raw milk relate specifically to health claims about children which are based on poor or no evidence. Raw milk may be an especially serious risk to urban or suburban children who may have no previous exposure to these bacteria. In contrast, children raised on farms probably receive some passive transfer of immunity from their mothers, and may also be constantly exposed to similar bacteria, allowing them to develop immunity. This does not mean that farm children never experience these illnesses, but the immune resistance of children who live away from a farm environment may be lower to these livestock related bacteria.<br />
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<a href="http://www.realrawmilkfacts.com/">Real Raw Milk Facts</a> is a new website written by veterinarians, food scientists and epidemiologists which provides the evidence for claims relating to raw milk and the risks of consuming raw milk products. It has an extensive<a href="http://www.realrawmilkfacts.com/scientific-references/"> list of scientific references</a> relating to raw milk related disease. If you or someone you know is considering giving yourself or especially children or other susceptible persons raw milk, make sure that you understand that the evidence for benefits from raw milk is poor to non-existent, and the risks of exposure to dangerous bacteria are much higher than they are with pasteurized dairy products.Bartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4377960011681266299.post-17282183236517713482010-07-28T20:33:00.000-07:002010-07-28T20:33:27.193-07:00The Rabies battle continues, in my backyard and yours.I have posted about the new strain of rabies virus associated with bats but also capable of causing outbreaks in other species such as foxes and skunks a <a href="http://skeptivet.blogspot.com/search/label/rabies">couple of times</a>. There have not been many cases reported in carnivores this year, probably due to the wildlife vaccine program which they did last year. This program involves oral vaccines distributed for foxes, coyotes and raccoons, and a trap and vaccinate program for skunks (unfortunately the oral bait vaccine is not effective in skunks for some reason). The dedicated personnel of the <a href="http://www.aphis.usda.gov/wildlife_damage/oral_rabies/index.shtml">USDA wildlife services rabies management program</a> get the lovely job of trapping and vaccinating skunks in Northern Arizona again this summer to prevent the spread of rabies virus from bats into terrestrial animals again.<br />
Currently they are vaccinating skunks in my neighborhood. I found a trap about 100yards away from my house today, complete with a small skunk hiding in the brush near the trap waiting for darkness before traveling away from cover again.<br />
<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiauKVvAN4Dq5o0pGswWjyEsW5rt_aVyd0uiR3M9WdexyDRftccIQQHRXPDhibzeOzdmu8NeEwZqBIZze6LT9MXqaujIMN4Z5NBHzRtOfoWeqTrGvZtYe19NeitHATQG2TMPzP6ccQPiWxt/s1600/072.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiauKVvAN4Dq5o0pGswWjyEsW5rt_aVyd0uiR3M9WdexyDRftccIQQHRXPDhibzeOzdmu8NeEwZqBIZze6LT9MXqaujIMN4Z5NBHzRtOfoWeqTrGvZtYe19NeitHATQG2TMPzP6ccQPiWxt/s400/072.JPG" width="267" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">This skunk was very calm and sleepy during the middle of the day, waiting for nightfall to resume it's normal foraging.</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhhThGSkwEFaNTCUJp6VgQxu8eCc7D95mfSWGGYqxf0nruFF3IBmXx_XVZPe6gyUUngkzcmcKQQ1PYI-qLC9X8cEXukYWqt3wRaDa0JvoNe_IxtWeHXe4lWWQ-a45EGhWXUVOtuPPSSCcot/s1600/078.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="267" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhhThGSkwEFaNTCUJp6VgQxu8eCc7D95mfSWGGYqxf0nruFF3IBmXx_XVZPe6gyUUngkzcmcKQQ1PYI-qLC9X8cEXukYWqt3wRaDa0JvoNe_IxtWeHXe4lWWQ-a45EGhWXUVOtuPPSSCcot/s400/078.JPG" width="400" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"> The ear tags indicate that this skunk has been vaccinated against Rabies.</span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-size: small;">This program is an interesting example of how science based veterinary medicine can improve the lives of both humans and </span> </span>animals. Eliminating terrestrial rabies would reduce the risk of exposure for both wild and domestic animals and humans as well. If you have a program like this going on in your area, be sure to express your appreciation of the sometimes unpleasant and nearly always under appreciated work that these people are doing on your behalf.</div>Bartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4377960011681266299.post-85764888862512768232010-07-26T21:23:00.000-07:002010-07-28T12:17:56.724-07:00A new resource for information on stem cell therapies. There was a very good <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128696529">NPR story</a> this morning on Morning edition on both the scientific potential of stem cell therapies and the false hope and outright quackery being offered to desperate people by stem cell clinics, especially overseas in places like China. The story did an unusually good job of reporting on the current use of stem cell therapies and the unscientific, premature, and possibly even fraudulent clinics that have erupted all around the world in recent years. They also mentioned a new website started by the <a href="http://www.closerlookatstemcells.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Home&Template=/Templates/TemplateHomepage/UnprovenTherapies_1510_20100323T144422_LayoutHomePage.cfm">International Society for Stem Cell Research </a>that does a good job explaining the state of the science of stem cell therapy, and more importantly has a place for people to submit the names of clinics and stem cell therapy claims for evaluation by experts in the field of stem cell research. This site seems to be oriented toward human stem cell therapies, but could still be useful for veterinary information due to overlap between human and veterinary medicine. The premature and fraudulent use of stem cell therapies in human medicine is a far larger problem than it is in veterinary medicine, but these researchers may also have knowledge of veterinary applications of stem cell research. Once the initial evaluations of human clinics are done, I hope they will look into the veterinary claims as well. The site should be a valuable resource for science-based information in any case and will be worth keeping an eye on as evaluations of clinics are published.Bartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4377960011681266299.post-20502924776499298482010-07-18T19:46:00.000-07:002010-07-18T19:46:00.025-07:00The Monsoon along the Mogollon Rim.The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zane_Grey">Mogollon Rim</a> in north central Arizona rises suddenly to an elevation of about 7-8,000 feet above sea level. This sudden elevation change means that the rim gets more snow in the winter and more rain during the summer monsoon than anywhere but the highest mountains in the state. The area was made famous to the rest of the world by General Crook's campaigns against the Apache in the 1870's, and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zane_Grey">Zane Grey's</a> writing in the 1920's. The rim has been an important summer hunting and gathering ground for thousands of years. The combination of high altitude and the resulting increased moisture means that water and a variety of plant and animal foods are available on the highlands above the rim when the desert below is sweltering in temperatures well over 100 degrees Fahrenheit. The berries we usually pick are not quite ripe yet, but should be within a week or so, and other interesting plants and animals are active.<br />
<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjOWVZznjIB00O__xx-i14FLynYmPac_qSSvr6QaiVi9EdJYhll3Crkb6WxJftL-tpXddLwHkVudtU_Tkysi5At5YtrPO-XhyphenhyphenXbI7ajBfZFun9JYervwYGxTmtq7qp4di2ccjTl0frzki_3/s1600/013.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="266" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjOWVZznjIB00O__xx-i14FLynYmPac_qSSvr6QaiVi9EdJYhll3Crkb6WxJftL-tpXddLwHkVudtU_Tkysi5At5YtrPO-XhyphenhyphenXbI7ajBfZFun9JYervwYGxTmtq7qp4di2ccjTl0frzki_3/s400/013.JPG" width="400" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;">A view of the Mogollon Rim from it's crest.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh1cSM3XoFDrnLQNapX7yfHIKRppMyz4fIiDjF1RbaZQMwbpNrOr2d7l3dviopRYdRTUs6xqip3OtzkTevEmRPwofMBORiJPbhyphenhyphenWtlHx2fMYSqWzZ0vc4UquV6IqM1IPLiqYfiHlVpSbYcA/s1600/027.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="267" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh1cSM3XoFDrnLQNapX7yfHIKRppMyz4fIiDjF1RbaZQMwbpNrOr2d7l3dviopRYdRTUs6xqip3OtzkTevEmRPwofMBORiJPbhyphenhyphenWtlHx2fMYSqWzZ0vc4UquV6IqM1IPLiqYfiHlVpSbYcA/s400/027.JPG" width="400" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;">A mountain tree-frog <i>Hyla eximia</i>, one of two tree-frog species in Arizona.</div><div style="text-align: center;">This is the first time I have ever seen one, and I would have missed it among the green leaves if it had not moved when we walked by.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhT3HMzyppXciBR81eQr626G_EVLfRKvwMps-QtZg2iqDc7GjaZoZ8iInGbJ_iDqkeNqqaAt5wVAmKNhVgr3oB-CA_3rvpKByANqZ3GhYa8IEr5Id1n7XhYSw12OxTsfNWhQNSjk3q1aeLO/s1600/030.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhT3HMzyppXciBR81eQr626G_EVLfRKvwMps-QtZg2iqDc7GjaZoZ8iInGbJ_iDqkeNqqaAt5wVAmKNhVgr3oB-CA_3rvpKByANqZ3GhYa8IEr5Id1n7XhYSw12OxTsfNWhQNSjk3q1aeLO/s400/030.JPG" width="267" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;">The first edible wild mushrooms of the year.</div><div style="text-align: center;">Oyster mushrooms are fairly easy to identify, and do not really have any toxic lookalikes.</div><div style="text-align: center;">Always be cautious collecting and eating wild mushrooms-consult 2-3 references and someone with experience first.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgFmLdGCz-YEcP-uErM1_W5oR7bjvsGaCmN6DjYb9EhXEQIPo_xQSos7MeACTDmRlJPoHMFLesnIAsPTFFmbqlnl0e_ce9gPCRelDLNYwEL3s8wvLTe-opk7QjVj1l_taPeI2v8NPMMN_xg/s1600/016.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="267" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgFmLdGCz-YEcP-uErM1_W5oR7bjvsGaCmN6DjYb9EhXEQIPo_xQSos7MeACTDmRlJPoHMFLesnIAsPTFFmbqlnl0e_ce9gPCRelDLNYwEL3s8wvLTe-opk7QjVj1l_taPeI2v8NPMMN_xg/s400/016.JPG" width="400" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;">An unsuccessful attempt to dig a red squirrel out of it's refuge.</div>Bartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4377960011681266299.post-22269283139745260682010-07-05T21:18:00.000-07:002013-02-23T10:20:10.577-08:00New developments with Dr. Alson Sears' NDV treatment of Canine Distemper, and more worrying signs of quackery.I <a href="http://skeptivet.blogspot.com/2010/01/canine-distemper-treatment.html">posted</a> about Dr. Alson Sears' treatment for canine distemper last year, and there have been some interesting developments since then that I thought should be addressed. There is at least one new person involved who I believe genuinely cares about animals and who seems to be convinced that the treatment of canine distemper involving Newcastle disease vaccine is actually effective. Unfortunately, there is not any better evidence that the treatment is effective, despite two different groups collecting donations to support their efforts to have more dogs infected with distemper treated. <a href="http://www.edbond.com/edbondonline/" rel="nofollow">Ed Bond</a>, the journalism teacher is still promoting the treatment with his own <a href="http://www.edbond.com/distemper.html" rel="nofollow">website</a> and a <a href="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000400025822" rel="nofollow">facebook</a> group, and now someone named <a href="http://www.firststop-laststop.com/project_hope_distemper_treatment.html" rel="nofollow">Jane</a>, who has her own shelter/rescue operation and writes her own blog and a blog on the Houston Chronicle website is now collecting donations for "Project Hope" which is dedicated to producing Dr. Sear's serum using Newcastle's Disease Vaccine administered to dogs and treating distemper cases with it. While I am still convinced that everyone involved in promoting this unproven treatment means well, and that they truly believe that it works, there are some disturbing signs of "mission creep" in the diseases which they claim to be able to treat, and the attempts to prove the treatment effective look inadequate to provide the kind of proof which they would like. At this time, they are selling DVD's and taking donations to provide what is at best an unproven and experimental treatment, while presenting it as something that is a proven treatment. This raises some serious ethical and legal concerns as most of the dogs involved are coming from shelters, and in some jurisdictions it is not legal to experiment on shelter animals, and spending money on an unproven and possibly risky treatment may not be the most effective use of limited funds.<br />
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To review my last post, canine distemper is a viral disease that affects domestic and wild canines and some other wild species such as raccoons and mustelids and large cats such as lions and tigers (cats in the genus <i>Felis</i>-domestic cats, and small wild cats also including american mountain lions are not susceptible to canine distemper). The vaccine is very effective, and despite some problems with effectiveness about 20 years ago (<a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9364705">1</a>, <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19931324">2</a>, <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9890023">3</a>), canine distemper is very rare in vaccinated, well cared for dogs and puppies. It can be a serious problem in large populations of young, unvaccinated dogs, such as shelter populations. There seems to be an ongoing outbreak in shelters in the area in which I live, and there are apparently similar problems in other areas as well, which may be one reason people are looking for treatment options right now. The course of the disease in an infected dog varies depending on a variety of factors depending on the dog's age, immune/vaccine status, and the strain of virus causing the infection. Young puppies are most susceptible, especially during the period when their maternal antibodies are declining but before they have time to develop their own immune response from vaccination. The highest risk period is from 6-16 weeeks, but unvaccinated dogs can be infected at any age. Older dogs tend to have somewhat less severe infections and a higher survival rate. Once dogs do develop immunity, it is long lasting, 3-4 years at least (<a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15578450">1</a>, <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16707236">2</a>, <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15906266">3</a>). Severely infected dogs are susceptible to secondary, fatal infections such as bacterial pneumonia, and some dogs develop neurological complications that can cause seizures, paralysis and death. Sometimes these problems can occur months or even years after apparent recovery from the infection, and are caused by damage the immune system does in the nervous system while trying to get rid of the virus. It is difficult to predict when or if a dog with a mild or moderate case of distemper will develop neurologic symptoms.<br />
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Diagnosing distemper definitively can be more difficult than we would like. Indirect tests such as looking for distinctive inclusion bodies in cells collected from various locations are good, and PCR testing for viral antigen is better, but the standard PCR test does not distinguish between the modified vaccine virus and the wild strains, and it is unknown how often the vaccine virus causes inclusion bodies in cells. This means that vaccination can cause a positive test result for up to three weeks after vaccination. I don't doubt that most of the dogs being treated by these well-meaning people do have distemper, but it is certainly possible that some of the dogs who recover quickly have other types of infections and test positive because of vaccination. Most shelters vaccinate puppies as soon as they enter the shelter in an attempt to avoid problems, so many of these puppies may have both vaccine and wild virus in their systems at the same time. Other infections like bacterial respiratory infections, canine influenza, and other viruses can all cause similar symptoms. Symptoms consistent with distemper and positive tests make it very likely that these dogs do have distemper, but specialized viral testing would be required to definitively prove that the dogs who recover did in fact have distemper and that the treatment actually killed the virus as Dr. Sears claims. This type of testing is normally only done in some virology research labs and at places like the CDC, where they analyze new strains of influenza and serious, unknown outbreaks of disease. Specialized immunology labs would also be required to confirm that the newcastle disease vaccine is having the effect Dr. Sears claims it has, which is stimulating a strong immune reaction in the donor dogs, such that a few milliliters of serum is enough to kill all the virus in an infected puppy.<br />
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There seem to be signs that the proponents of the treatment are using some selection bias when reporting the results of the treatment, and overstating the number of dogs which survive. I will provide some quotes from their sites that seem to illustrate this. Project Hope is named after a puppy that did not survive the treatment, and there seem to be quite a few similar cases when I searched through the discussion pages of the facebook group;<br />
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The serum treatment for distemper is nearly 100 percent--I don't know of any cases that failed but in medicine, there is never 100 percent of anything.<br />
(May 5th, 2010 Jane's blog)</blockquote>
This is almost 6 months after "Hope" died despite treatment, and after other failures; <br />
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SaveDogs FromDistemper Sadly all 5 Croatian puppies died, but the adult with neurologic symptoms has recovered. They are calling it a miracle.<br />
(December 19, 2009 at 7:17am Facebook Group)</blockquote>
There are others as well when you scroll through the discussion pages.<br />
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Since distemper is such a serious disease, dogs who recover often have an extended recovery. Despite claims that the Newcastles treatment is so effective, they have many cases where the dogs take a long time to recover. This (and their failures) is blamed on the secondary infections, or the treatment coming "too late", which is unfortunately something which happens all too often in defense of many unproven treatments.<br />
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She is a Project Hope serum puppy. Three weeks ago, after being diagnosed with distemper at her vet, Brindy received Dr. Sears' NDV-induced serum, a treatment for distemper. She had an advanced case of distemper--green crusty nose, green crusty eyes, pneumonia...and she had a skin condition of some sort. The distemper was dead in 24 hours according to Dr. Sears. The other issues have yet to be cured.<br />
(Feb. 15, 2010 Jane's blog)</blockquote>
Skin problems can be caused by distemper as well.<br />
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It will take some weeks or even months (4 weeks to 4 months is what Dr. Sears tells me is a good rule of thumb) for the damage that was done to repair itself. (March 19, 2010 Jane's blog)</blockquote>
They are also starting to make claims that the treatment works for a wide variety or other dieseases, with apparently no evidence whatsoever. Occasionally they contradict themselves, as Dr. Sears says at one point in a video clip that the serum does nothing against parvovirus, but claims otherwise elsewhere.<br />
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Dr. Sears is now including the NDV-induced serum in protocols to treat not only canine distemper, but parvo and herpes as well as several other diseases. The first puppy testing positive with parvo had serum and within just several days, her fever went down and her recovery seems to be rapid. This is making me think some.<br />
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First of all, having the serum is like having a life-insurance policy for our dogs/puppies. As long as we act fast enough, and don't waste weeks with other vets getting ineffective treatments, the serum is very close to miraculous. If I didn't know that serum was in Houston, I would be very nervous about the outbreaks of distemper and parvo. <br />
(April 3, 2010 Jane's blog)</blockquote>
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What is fascinating, is that this same disease model--what Dr. Sears' is using to treat distemper--can be used to eliminate human diseases like MS and maybe even cancer. Yes, this is huge--and we have to do a little bit each day. What we are learning and teaching, thanks to Dr. Alson Sears, will make a difference in this world. <br />
(Feb 15, 2010 Jane's blog)</blockquote>
Those are pretty remarkable claims, and I am sure Jane really hopes and believes they are true, but it does not seem to bode well for the scientific attitude toward the treatment they are promoting.<br />
They seem to want to prove that the treatment is effective, which is a good thing, but they don't seem to have anyone with any scientific training working on it. Their claims of ties to Texas A&M seem to be limited to sending their diagnostic tests to the lab there. At this point there is no indication of involvement of the veterinary school there in researching this treatment.<br />
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This will be a publicly-funded project (donation-sponsored) and the serum will then be free to those who need it--and agree to participate in the screenings for distemper which are being sent to, and tested by, Texas A & M. It is our intention to get a peer-review article for vets all over to learn from what we are doing. How often do we get a chance in our lives to do something that can change the world? <br />
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(February 28, 2010 Jane's blog)</blockquote>
In conclusion, the evidence of their own websites, and the fact that they seem to be using the donations they receive honestly, indicates that Ed Bond, Jane, and others involved in this are honestly trying to help sick animals. Unfortunately, after 40 years of using this treatment, Dr. Sears still has nothing more than anecdote and testimonial to prove that the treatment works. While he has managed to convince some well meaning laypeople, the evidence is still inadequate to non-existent, and of all the people involved in this, he is the one who should understand this. Apparently he does not. If this treatment is ineffective, the effort and money they are spending could be much better used elsewhere. I would be happy to be wrong about this, but so far they have not presented anything to convince me that I am. If they really want to show that the treatment is effective, they need to establish that the treated dogs all actually had wild strains of distemper, and their tests are not being interfered with by vaccine strains of virus. Ideally, they could run a blinded, controlled trial to be sure that treated dogs survive distemper at a higher rate than dogs given standard, supportive care. They also need to keep meticulous and honest records of both positive and negative outcomes. It might be difficult to convince everyone involved to do this, since the primary promoters of the treatment already seem convinced that it works, and may be reluctant to not treat some dogs in a trial. However, if they really want to know if this treatment is effective, and produce evidence that other veterinarians would accept, that is what they need to do, even if the results are disappointing in the end. It is possible that the treatment is a false hope, which would be worse than the small hope available now to owners of severely infected puppies. If the treatment is ineffective, as I suspect it may be, then they can concentrate on helping dogs in more effective ways.<br />
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Addendum; 7/28/10;<br />
For those who might be interested in another, science-based resource on shelter medicine and issues such as distemper problems in shelter animals, the <a href="http://www.sheltermedicine.com/">UC Davis Koret shelter medicine program</a> has an excellent website with a page on <a href="http://www.sheltermedicine.com/cdv">canine distemper</a>. Related to the outbreak local shelters are experiencing, the use of the relatively new recombinant distemper vaccine produced by Merial can be useful as it does not cause false positive PCR tests. The use of this vaccine by those trying to demonstrate efficacy of Dr. Sears' treatment would be one thing that would help to increase the validity or their results.Bartimaeushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.com15